Wednesday, February 04, 2004

Is golf really a sport or just a game?

Having played golf competitively on many levels (High School and College (2002 Graduate)), I bring what I consider a different view of golf. My views have developed from having played golf for many years and watching people succeed and fail. I have played many of the great golf courses in the country and I have been brought up as golf as my backbone. So knowing that, here is my first post...

Growing up in the time when football and soccer were cool and golfers were considered losers (that is pre-tiger), I have constantly been posed the question is golf a game or a sport. So what is it?

When people think of sports: baseball, soccer, football, and basketball normally come to mind. And when people think of games: chess, monopoly, checkers, poker normally come to mind. So where does golf fit into this spectrum?

Well, if we take what most people consider sports, I believe the item consistent with all of them is that they are reactionary. When LeBron James, Warren Sapp, Roger Clemens, and Beckham all participate in their respective profession, I strongly doubt that LeBron thinks about whether his shoulders are square when he shoots a 3-pointer. I would bet that Warren Sapp thinks about whether he keeps his head up when trying to sack the quarterback. I doubt that Roger Clemens worries about how far the catcher is from the pitcher's mound. And, I seriously question whether Beckham thinks about how his leg is going to kick the ball into the upper right corner of the net. They all just do it. It is reactionary.

Now, let's take a look at what people consider games. These games are not reactionary. You don't just touch a piece and move it in chess or checkers. You think about each move and its consequences. In monopoly, you don't always buy every piece of property that you land on. And playing 7-card stud you would not go all in on a 2 -7 off suit. You contemplate what you should do and then perform.

So what is golf a game or a sport? Do you think Tiger thinks about if his left elbow is bowed out or do you think he just clears his mind and swings? Does Davis worry about whether he keeps his head down when he strokes in the 5 footer for birdie after stuffing a wedge or does he just go through his routine and putt it in? Using the reactionary/non-reactionary distinction, I think that for the best golfers in the world or at your country club, golf is definitely a sport. The elite players don't worry about many of these things. It is completely reactionary. I think this is why children are such good putters. They don't think about whether it is going left or right, they just stand up and whack it in. But for most golfers, Golf is a game. They worry about the water left and then hit it into the water or hit it out of bounds right. It is not reactionary.

If you don't believe me, try this:

Take 5 golf balls and a trash can. Place the trash can 30 yards or some distance away from you. Now, try to throw the balls into the trash can. I would bet that after you have thrown a couple thinking about how far to throw it and what trajectory was needed, your mind clears and you start to make them into the trash can. You go from thinking about it to being reactionary. And I bet that if you try to make the game more reactionary, you will definitely improve!

So for you, is golf a sport or just a game?

20 Comments:

At 8:56 AM, Blogger monster34 said...

It is not a sport, there is hardly any exercise required,mostly strategy is involved, which makes it much more of a game. Golf is merely an excuse for wealthy city people to come down, pretend they are enjoying the vast country lands (while in fact they are just cutting down forest) and hit a minute ball with an expensive club. They add rules to it to validate the uselessness of the procedure. There's a reason it's referred to as a club, the name was obviously extracted from the tool idiot cavemen used to complete their idiot tasks. Is this connection unclear, i believe not.

 
At 7:24 PM, Blogger Jdub said...

I think what monster said is completely arrogant and idiotic.

To play golf at a high level (70's)
more than just hacking around is required.

 
At 5:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Golf is not a sport.

It's a game untalented, fat white guys play when they're not imagining their wives swinging with a guy who actually plays a sport.

 
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At 6:39 PM, Blogger seanzy_golf said...

that comment about golf being all about fat white guys or w/e.

thats an example of someone that clearly is a moron.

thats an example of someone that hasn't even tried golf and someone that wouldn't even be able to compete.

golf IS a sport, it may not be as physically demanding as the more popular sports, but mentally, its one of the hardest.

in football or basketball, you have a team to help you out if you make mistakes.

in golf, it's all on you
no help, no advice, just you

you can't say it's not a sport when guys like Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, and Charles Barkley have all said that Tiger Woods will go down as one of the greatest atheletes of all time, if not THE greatest

Gretzky even said on tv that Tiger will be the greatest athelete ever

everyone thinks in order for something to be a sport, you have to be a meat-head.

and hey,

try telling Tiger Woods to his face that it's not a sport

when you actually pay enough attention to how he is built,

uhhh, i think you would reconsider

 
At 9:19 PM, Blogger psycho greg said...

Golf is not a sport. John Daly has won 2 Majors in golf. This either ties him or puts him ahead of the following 152 pro golfers with Major wins: 2 majors - 32 golfers: Jack Burke, Jr., Ben Crenshaw, Leo Diegel, Olin Dutra, Doug Ford, Retief Goosen, David Graham, Hubert Green, Harold Hilton, Jock Hutchison, Tony Jacklin, Lee Janzen, Sandy Lyle, Bernhard Langer, John McDermott, Bob Martin, Johnny Miller, Greg Norman, Andy North, José María Olazábal, Mark O'Meara, Willie Park, Jr., Henry Picard, Edward Ray, Paul Runyan, Alex Smith, Horton Smith, Dave Stockton, Curtis Strange, Craig Wood, Fuzzy Zoeller. 1 major - 120 golfers: Tommy Aaron, George Archer, Laurie Auchterlonie, William Auchterlonie, Paul Azinger, Ian Baker-Finch, John Ball, Jerry Barber, Rich Beem, Tommy Bolt, Gay Brewer, Mark Brooks, David Brown, Billy Burke, Walter Burkemo, Jack Burns, Richard Burton, Ángel Cabrera, Mark Calcavecchia, Michael Campbell, Bob Charles, Charles Coody, Fred Couples, Tom Creavy, Ben Curtis, Fred Daly, Roberto DeVicenzo, George Duncan, David Duval, Steve Elkington, Chick Evans, Johnny Farrell, Max Faulkner, Willie Fernie, Jim Ferrier, Dow Finsterwald, Jack Fleck, James Foulis, Ed Furgol, Jim Furyk, Al Geiberger, Vic Ghezzi, Bob Goalby, Johnny Goodman, Wayne Grady, Lou Graham, Bob Hamilton, Todd Hamilton, Chick Harbert, Claude Harmon, Chandler Harper, Pádraig Harrington, Arthur Havers, Jay Hebert, Lionel Hebert, Fred Herd, Sandy Herd, Don January, Zach Johnson, Steve Jones, Herman Keiser, Tom Kidd, Hugh Kirkaldy, Tom Kite, Paul Lawrie, Tom Lehman, Tony Lema, Justin Leonard, Lawson Little, Gene Littler, Joe Lloyd, Davis Love III, Willie Macfarlane, Fred McLeod, John Mahaffey, Tony Manero, Lloyd Mangrum, Dave Marr, Arnaud Massy, Dick Mayer, Shaun Micheel, Larry Mize, Orville Moody, Kel Nagle, Bobby Nichols, Geoff Ogilvy, Francis Ouimet, Alf Padgham, Mungo Park, Sam Parks, Jr., Jerry Pate, Corey Pavin, Alf Perry, Horace Rawlins, Johnny Revolta, Bill Rogers, Bob Rosburg, Alec Ross, George Sargent, Jack Simpson, Scott Simpson, Jeff Sluman, Willie Smith, Craig Stadler, Andrew Strath, Hal Sutton, David Toms, Jerome Travers, Jim Turnesa, Bob Tway, Ken Venturi, Lanny Wadkins, Cyril Walker, Art Wall, Jr., Mike Weir, Tom Weiskopf, Reg Whitcombe, Jack White, Ian Woosnam, Lew Worsham. 25 of the mentioned 1 & 2 Major winners are inducted in the World Golf Hall of Fame, located in Florida. For you numbers nuts, like me, you can go to their website of the same name to verify. John Daly has equalled or exceeded Major wins by 25 Hall of Famers. I'm pretty sure that the 25 inductees to golf's hallowed halls, were inducted based on their body of golfing accomplishments and impact on the game, and not solely on winning 2 golf majors (at least let's hope not-or else you got to put the big white boy in there). I'm just saying, numbers never lie and it is what it is. Lastly, Jack Nicklaus won his last major at the "youthfull" age of 46 (love handles & stomach fat-roll clearly in plain sight). He also contended for another major and came in 6th place at the even "more youthful" age of 58. Still think it's a sport? Please find me another example of where this type of accomplishment has happened in a sport by an individual at such an advanced age. Anything younger than 46 don't count. He won the Masters baby, at 46, not some putt-putt tourney. The Masters is considered the pinnacle of golf. The best in the game. That's why they call it The Masters. We're talking World Series, World Cup, Gold Medal winner(not including curling) here. Please don't insult me by using some example like a 90 year old who swam the English Channel or a 50 year old player who mainly comes off the bench to do his best work (Julio Franco). No NASCAR or Chris Chelios references either. The car and pit crew do most of the work & Chelli's a freak of nature. He has 4 percent body fat. It's not even fair to compare him to someone half his age. Golf and bowling are the only activities that I can think of(don't say fishing), that you do not have an actual opponent whose actions do something to counter your actions to win. You play the course, and that's not an opponent. The course does not know or care how well or poorly that you are playing. Bowling is the same way. You play the lane. Golf is unique in that every course is designed differently(in bowling, the lanes and pins are standard). Honestly, golf shouldn't even be considered a game, like chess, checkers or shuffleboard (as 3 examples). In each of those games, there is an actual opponent whose actions do something to counter your actions to win. So what is golf, if it's not a sport or a game? I say that it's a recreational activity, played at a leisurely pace, by out of shape men (mostly), who originally wanted to get away from family, job, etc for a few hours(that's why you had to join a club-it keeps the have nots away). Since the majority of men fit in this category, golf took on an enormous following. It looked like something that we could all do without an opponent trying to stop us. You could even participate alone. That enormous following drove golf to become a recreational activity (stilled played at a leisurely pace), that wishes it was a sport, but is played like a game without an adversary.

 
At 6:07 PM, Blogger Charles said...

You guys are all retarded...who are you?? you're just some guy making observations and reading a few articles.
Lets ask actual athletes in other sports...hmm how about Michael Jordan?? Would you say he knows a thing or two about sports?? I think most people would agree that he is a credible source.
He plays frequently and loves golf and has been quoted stating that it is in fact a sport...he has been seen many times a events and is a good friend of Tiger Woods...
hmmm i think i'll take my chances with Michael and not some loser with a keyboard

 
At 11:54 AM, Blogger Carol said...

psycho greg said "Golf and bowling are the only activities that I can think of(don't say fishing), that you do not have an actual opponent whose actions do something to counter your actions to win. You play the course, and that's not an opponent. The course does not know or care how well or poorly that you are playing. Bowling is the same way."

By that argument, gymnastics would not be a sport...

 
At 5:25 PM, Blogger Apryl DeLancey said...

Golf is definitely a sport!

 
At 9:09 PM, Blogger William said...

The tie breaker for making golf a game or a sport comes down to athletasim. You can play the Game of Golf. Which it is always referred to by the announcers, and be non athletic. Case it point Fuzzy Zeller, as he walked the fairways with cigarette in hand would not be considered an athlete. The golfers who are athletic, ie Tiger Woods, are ones who out perform the other non athletes. Look at his record. Baseball is considered America's game. I can see why when the waist lines of the pitchers, first basemen and designated hitters continue to grow faster than gas prices. Baseball is leaning more on the side of being a game than a sport.
Golf is a game that everyone tries to play and only a few excel. A hard game yes, but a game none the less.

 
At 2:03 PM, Blogger Sophie said...

Okay, I think golf is definitely a sport. And I'm a 16 year old girl and am on the team at my high school. It is NOT just fat old guys. Golf is a sport that takes a lot of concentration, patience, and intelligence. You have to get this little itty bitty ball into a tiny hole that's in a huge area. And besides, don't you say 'I'm going to a basketball game' or 'football game' or 'baseball game' you DON'T say, 'I'm going to a basketball sport' that sounds stupid. So doesn't that mean that most people call all of those sports games??? And yes, strategy is involved in golf, but you have to be able to actually hit the ball where you want it to go, which is where the athleticism comes in, whereas chess is strategy, but where you want the chess piece to go, it automatically goes.

 
At 3:22 PM, Blogger JimsLife said...

Ok, I think golf is a sport! But then I like the game of golf, before e you say ah ha! When you go to or watch a baseball game, you don't say I’m going to the sport, I'm watching the sport.

The deciding factor should be the people with an interest in golf, players fans venues etc.

The NFL NHL NBA don’t have plaques hanging in their commissioners offices saying their sports are herby and forever declared SPORTS.

There is no rule book that states how physical, intellectual, or fast moving a game has to be to be called a sport!

If you say golf is not a sport... I say, So what! Get over yourself!

 
At 5:17 PM, Blogger golfer11 said...

Golf is a demanding sport, if you want to compete you take countless hours to get that much closer. it is not a game, it is a full sport. not everyone uses a golf cart. i am 13 and i play golf all the time and i carry my bag, not only that but i also play a full course over a mile long twice a week. it takes more then most think. it is a commitment. you must have the will to compete if you would like to succeed. I laugh at all who say golf is a "game" or "not a sport" or it is "boring". quite frankly if these are your thoughts on golf find another SPORT. People dont understand the conditions most people play in. i play in 80+ weather all the time yet my best score on the course i play is 1 over par. that doesnt just happen. it takes long hours of practice. I have gotten made fun of in many different ways. but still i play through. i not only play through i win. Golf, is a sport. to me golf is a sport, to others it is just a game. A reason people pick on golf is because not as many people pull their heads out of there butts and pick up a club. they would rather fight for something. or try to grab a piece of pigskin. They also have to physically hurt people to get what they want. A goal. is it worth it too hit someone to get what you desire. or would you rather stop being barbarians and play a great sport in which most people are to idiotic to find???? answer that question.

 
At 6:56 PM, Blogger Ichabod said...

Hi, I'm 14, and I believe Golf is a sport.

It's true that I've seen fat white guys who go out there and don't what they're doing, but you can't look at a drive which goes 340 yards, and honestly say that doesn't require some kind of physical ability and stregnth.

 
At 9:26 PM, Blogger Brady said...

okay... so i play college golf and i have to say this. golf is a sport... it is one of the hardest as a matter of fact. You can put me on the soccer team and i will learn it within 2 weeks on how to play... you give one of the soccer players a golf club and tell them they have two weeks and they will be praying they had another year. golf is mental as well as physical when you burn 1400 calories in a round of golf and walk up and down hills and in 100 degree heat or 38 degree cold with wind and rain you better be physically as well as mentally fit. it requires a lot of physical activity. we wake up at 6 am to run 2 miles and lift weights to increase our distance and performance... so try to convince me golf is not a physical sport... and i will tell you to pick up a golf club and try to shoot par.

 
At 1:40 PM, Blogger cwalt20 said...

ok, let's start here...anyone of you that has said golf is not a sport, have you ever played? i play college golf and just got back from a match in north carolina,three rounds 18 holes each. could you walk 72 holes in three days with a 30 or 40 lb bag on your back and still shoot in the 70's or low 80's? can you even shoot that low? i doubt it. so lets count it up...counting range balls, practice swings and actual hits, thats close to 500 swings....could you do it? so before you go saying golf is not a sport try doing what a real golfer does, instead of what the weekend warrior does...oh yeah one more thing, can you hit the ball over 300 yards(on avg) constantly? think about it and get back to me, before you go talking anymore dumb crap.

 

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